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I have a question. Let me assume that ICE agents are not wandering the streets in Canada, kidnapping people, and sending them to God knows where.

Let’s instead assume that they are at ports of entry. If I went to a border crossing, I can be denied entry to the USA.

However, because I am attempting to cross the border at that point it is conceivable that an ICE agent could decide to detain me, throw me in jail and send me to whatever prison camp they want to. To my Simple Mind, that would seem to be a very bad situation. So my approach is simply to never travel to the United States again!

And here is where my question is. Let’s say that I have decided I MUST visit the United States and fly to California. I pick California randomly it could be anywhere. I’m just leaving from Canada and flying to the United States.

I assume that it would be the people checking out who I am at the airport who decide whether or not I’m allowed to go to the USA. I make this assumption because they have American border patrol people at the Vancouver International Airport. So yes, they are, American agents… But they’re on Canadian soil. And if they say I’m not allowed into the USA, I’m still in Canada so I might lose my plane ticket, but at least I don’t get captured and thrown into a prison camp.

I’m assuming that the people who would be checking whether I’m allowed to go to the United States or not would be the American border guards at the airport. It would be really bad if they know that I should not travel to the United States, but let me get on the airplane anyway, only so they can arrest me once I arrive in California! Yes, that would be perverse, but it would boost their numbers of detained people showing how wonderfully secure the border is due to all of these silly rules.

Given that scenario is pre-clearance at an airport in Canada a good thing or a bad thing?

Note that this is a hypothetical situation,, because quite frankly, I have no desire to ever visit the USA again.

Andrea Stoeckel's avatar

As I am not Canadian I am choosing BOT to sign in part because if a "foreigner" signs a person in the US it voids the petition. I hope you understand

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